@Ben.Molina: Sorry, made you look stupid. My prior statement was how it's ridiculous to say that jailbreaking the phone makes it less stable and reliable.
As much as I want to support these developers, I can't get myself to throw down cash for their products. Because they're on a gray-market service, the support for the software could die at any moment.
I mean, with a simple firmware update, a bunch of 3rd party software could stop working, and only the really dedicated will actually go back a fix it. There are still a lot of firmware 2.x software that I would love on my 3.x firmware, but alas, no equivalent exists.
Kind of similar with the new unibody MacBook. The small differences between it and the base MBP are an aluminum case, FireWire port, backlit keyboard, and SD card slot. The processor, RAM, and battery are the same but the hardrive is bigger and it's far cheaper.
It makes it hard to justify the couple extra hundred bucks. Apples updates have been extremely unpredictable in the past couple years with the unibodies and MacBook Pro 13" coming out. Its just not typical for them to have a lower end model blurring their otherwise straight forward distiction from the pricier ones. Same goes with new iMacs of course as stated in the article too.
This is a sign that the laptop and desktop Pros will be updated within the next couple months (if they stick to their past upgrade schedule which obviously needs to be tweaked a little). I just hope they make a decent increase in power over the past updates. Not necessarily for me because I'm not purchasing one any time soon (I'm a poor Apple enthusiast), but it's my job and I do enjoy it when Apple makes it easier with a significant update.
The biggest difference between the iMac and MacPro is that the MacPro is easier to work on.
This may not seem like an issue upon purchase but when you have to hire a Mac tech to fix your computer and it takes twice as long to fix the iMac as it would a normal tower you might think twice on your next purchase.
iMac's are pretty but trying to work on them is the pits..
My experience with backgrounding, was that one or more apps was going to quit with an out-of-memory problem.
The only thing I really wanted backgrounding for was Pandora. And, well, Pandora just bombs out. It may have gotten better since OS3.0, but really, it's not worth it, even then.
Jailbreak went from a beautiful and worthwhile process, to largely unnecessary, to introducing your iphone to extra security risks. I can understand the average consumer mentality of wanting to save $2.99 on a game, but is it really worth the risk? The average person jailbreaking their iPhone doesn't understand what "root" means or what the hell SSH does. I've seen forum postings with "average consumer' types giving away all the info you need to gain access to their iPhone (public IP addresses, root user and password, etc). I recently went and tried to see if there was anything worth jailbreaking for, and aside from being able to keep internet radio streaming, the answer is a resounding "no".
@thechansen: Jailbreaking has absolutely nothing to do with saving 2.99 on a game (I personally find installous to be very scummy)...and quite frankly if you saw nothing worthwhile, then clearly you weren't looking in the right places.
First of all, turning off SSH is not exactly a big deal...second of all, for things worthwhile: how about being able to view your calendar items that are upcoming WITHOUT having to unlock your phone and go into the calendar app? Or how about being able to see the actual weather at a glance without having to open the weather app? For me, even more of value, being able to have 5 columns of icons, and 5 icons in my dock. Being able to tether, even though AT&T hasn't said I can yet. Being able to use google voice. Being about to video record, even though according to apple my 3G isn't able to. Free turn by turn GPS.
None of that is worth taking 5 minutes to jailbreak with blackra1n, put on MIM and disable SSH? Personally I like my smartphone being smart, so I'll stick with jailbreaking. Don't assume that just because it's called jailbreaking that it's only for scumbags looking to do scummy things. You can add an awful lot of value to your device using jailbreak apps that SHOULD be legit and offered in the itunes store. Hell, if half the customization and functionality I listed above was offered, I wouldn't jailbreak - even if it meant forgoing the tethering cheat.
@geekymitch: opening the weather app is well worth the battery time saved vs it being left on in the background. Installous is a major issue and a major reason for the average person to jailbreak. I can use Google Voice on my iPhone just fine without jailbreaking, and 5 items on the dock is certainly worth some random jerk from making an app with no oversite and fucking up your day when you get your bank accounts drained.
@thechansen: hmmm well we have ad block also homebrew is lovely along with backgrounder apps insomnia is also awesome uhmm 3g unrestrictor changing your themes ringtones fontswap downloading through safari being able to browse the internals of your iPhone via iFile and now multifl0w but you know that's just to name a few. I know I know it's dumb to jailbreak haha. as for the hackers get sbsettings and just turn off SSH or change your password it's not that difficult in the end if you want to jailbreak I think it's great just read up on it take the time to learn but it's definitely not worthless.
@thechansen: SBSettings is the reason to jailbreak.
Would it kill Apple to have a way to switch on/off the battery-draining 3G connection or brighten/dim video without exiting back to the home screen and digging through several levels of menus?
@wannafightabout-it: yes ad block is useful, and is downloading from safari (which in itself has limited usefulness, but I concede that it could in theory have a place). And how does giving access to the average user of a unix filesystem really help them? How is it any better than using, let's say, drop box? If you really needed to get some one a file that you had, off the internet you could easily just email them the link, send the file from your home pc, or various other methods without ever having to download it to your phone first. What files other then the odd codec video file do you need to open that the iPhone can't natively open? SBSettings saves you what, 2 finger movements? Well worth the security flaws introduced by jailbreaking.
@Antonio Jorge Ferreira: I'm sorry but smartscreen, and other such widget based apps, put a bigger strain on the battery then you think and its not from using the 3g radio. Its from the process running in the background. You are pulling the info from your ass, Backgrounder is terribly inefficiencent at CPU utilization on the device.
@kingslaye505: Theme my device? That certainly adds a ton of extra usability. Did you use a Team Edward theme?
And yes I have an application on my iPhone that allows the use of Google Voice. Yes Apple removed it from the App Store. No it is not google voice search. I have two google voice phone numbers. I normally only recieve calls on those numbers so it doesn't really effect my google voice use, now does it? Even still you can use google voice from the web front end just fine, if just slightly more cumbersome.
@thechansen: I repeat - it takes exactly 20 seconds to secure your jailbroken iphone. If you have the wherewithall to jailbreak in the first place, I think you can figure out how to turn off SSH and type one command.
As for battery life, I don't find that the live weather icon drains my battery any faster - neither does the animated clock. For that matter neither do any of the things I have installed on my device (vwallpaper did, which is why I no longer have it).
I'm just saying, before you throw your hands up to the world declaring that jailbreaking is not pointless, give it some thought: there's an awful lot of functionality to be had out there.
Does the Mac Pro have Xeon, or just plain Core i7?
Yes, there is a difference. Not one the average "prosumer" type is going to notice, but there is a difference.
To be totally honest, anybody looking for power and/or expandability who doesn't need a Xeon would be best served to stay away from Apple altogether (though I admit, the Core i7 iMac does change the game significantly in that regard).
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@HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: If the Core i7 iMac changes the game significantly, wouldn't that mean that people are no longer served by staying away from Apple altogether?
@tvcity6455: Perhaps not quite as far away as before, but I still feel that buying a non-AIO unit from another vendor would buy them much more flexibility and the same or more power at a lower price.
It's been a long time since I was into jailbreaking, but this might be worth returning for, thought I'd be concerned about speed since I don't have the GS.
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Now my car won't stop. :(
To make matters worse, my car company is acting like it's my fault!!!!
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Do you honestly think that more 10% of mac owners run multiple juice sucking programs at once?
Or do you honestly think that less 90% of the people who own mac have one for the sake of: iPod, Design, trend?
I think most of us can agree that both of the answers are "No".
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@Calzo: Ok, now what?
And... it's gone.
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I mean, with a simple firmware update, a bunch of 3rd party software could stop working, and only the really dedicated will actually go back a fix it. There are still a lot of firmware 2.x software that I would love on my 3.x firmware, but alas, no equivalent exists.
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It makes it hard to justify the couple extra hundred bucks. Apples updates have been extremely unpredictable in the past couple years with the unibodies and MacBook Pro 13" coming out. Its just not typical for them to have a lower end model blurring their otherwise straight forward distiction from the pricier ones. Same goes with new iMacs of course as stated in the article too.
This is a sign that the laptop and desktop Pros will be updated within the next couple months (if they stick to their past upgrade schedule which obviously needs to be tweaked a little). I just hope they make a decent increase in power over the past updates. Not necessarily for me because I'm not purchasing one any time soon (I'm a poor Apple enthusiast), but it's my job and I do enjoy it when Apple makes it easier with a significant update.
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This may not seem like an issue upon purchase but when you have to hire a Mac tech to fix your computer and it takes twice as long to fix the iMac as it would a normal tower you might think twice on your next purchase.
iMac's are pretty but trying to work on them is the pits..
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The only thing I really wanted backgrounding for was Pandora. And, well, Pandora just bombs out. It may have gotten better since OS3.0, but really, it's not worth it, even then.
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First of all, turning off SSH is not exactly a big deal...second of all, for things worthwhile: how about being able to view your calendar items that are upcoming WITHOUT having to unlock your phone and go into the calendar app? Or how about being able to see the actual weather at a glance without having to open the weather app? For me, even more of value, being able to have 5 columns of icons, and 5 icons in my dock. Being able to tether, even though AT&T hasn't said I can yet. Being able to use google voice. Being about to video record, even though according to apple my 3G isn't able to. Free turn by turn GPS.
None of that is worth taking 5 minutes to jailbreak with blackra1n, put on MIM and disable SSH? Personally I like my smartphone being smart, so I'll stick with jailbreaking. Don't assume that just because it's called jailbreaking that it's only for scumbags looking to do scummy things. You can add an awful lot of value to your device using jailbreak apps that SHOULD be legit and offered in the itunes store. Hell, if half the customization and functionality I listed above was offered, I wouldn't jailbreak - even if it meant forgoing the tethering cheat.
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Would it kill Apple to have a way to switch on/off the battery-draining 3G connection or brighten/dim video without exiting back to the home screen and digging through several levels of menus?
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@Antonio Jorge Ferreira: I'm sorry but smartscreen, and other such widget based apps, put a bigger strain on the battery then you think and its not from using the 3g radio. Its from the process running in the background. You are pulling the info from your ass, Backgrounder is terribly inefficiencent at CPU utilization on the device.
@kingslaye505: Theme my device? That certainly adds a ton of extra usability. Did you use a Team Edward theme?
And yes I have an application on my iPhone that allows the use of Google Voice. Yes Apple removed it from the App Store. No it is not google voice search. I have two google voice phone numbers. I normally only recieve calls on those numbers so it doesn't really effect my google voice use, now does it? Even still you can use google voice from the web front end just fine, if just slightly more cumbersome.
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As for battery life, I don't find that the live weather icon drains my battery any faster - neither does the animated clock. For that matter neither do any of the things I have installed on my device (vwallpaper did, which is why I no longer have it).
I'm just saying, before you throw your hands up to the world declaring that jailbreaking is not pointless, give it some thought: there's an awful lot of functionality to be had out there.
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Yes, there is a difference. Not one the average "prosumer" type is going to notice, but there is a difference.
To be totally honest, anybody looking for power and/or expandability who doesn't need a Xeon would be best served to stay away from Apple altogether (though I admit, the Core i7 iMac does change the game significantly in that regard).
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